question Opinions about this Zetor 8011?

[kostashoobe]

Hello to all active community of zetor .
Iam new in farming and all type of machines,iam now getting my license, iam from greece and i am thinking to buy a tractor.A tractor 4x4 and about 60-80 hp 4 cylinder are my thoughts. The ammount of money i can dispose about it is 4.000-5.000 and its hard to get a tractor with those specs for that money. Anyway i wanted to ask your opinion about zetor particularly and maybe about this one in the post of selling

https://www.car.gr/14518780-zetor-18?lang=en

Some friends said to me that zetors not so good(they mostly having Deutz-Ford) they getting a lot pof problems and also this one that is very old will cause many problems and its also heavy and wont be good for the fields (lavender)

Thanks in advance!

 

[diyfarmer]

Hello to all active community of zetor .
Iam new in farming and all type of machines,iam now getting my license, iam from greece and i am thinking to buy a tractor.A tractor 4x4 and about 60-80 hp 4 cylinder are my thoughts. The ammount of money i can dispose about it is 4.000-5.000 and its hard to get a tractor with those specs for that money. Anyway i wanted to ask your opinion about zetor particularly and maybe about this one in the post of selling

https://www.car.gr/14518780-zetor-18?lang=en

Some friends said to me that zetors not so good(they mostly having Deutz-Ford) they getting a lot pof problems and also this one that is very old will cause many problems and its also heavy and wont be good for the fields (lavender)

Thanks in advance!

Hi I'm afraid I don't know anything about lavender, but my first tractor when I was 22 a Zetor 8045, which would be an old tractor now and if you had 5000 euro you would better to buy a 8111 but it's only 2 wd if your after 4x4 then you be looking at something like a 7341 for that money and it would lighter, newer and nimble.

 

[kostashoobe]

Hi I'm afraid I don't know anything about lavender, but my first tractor when I was 22 a Zetor 8045, which would be an old tractor now and if you had 5000 euro you would better to buy a 8111 but it's only 2 wd if your after 4x4 then you be looking at something like a 7341 for that money and it would lighter, newer and nimble.

First of all big Thank for answer me back because i am really confused.


I saw zetor 8045 somewhere and it looked exactly like 8011 crystal, they are both 4x4. Are they the same?? i was curious... Was a good tractor after all but heavy?? Well iam not looking for only lavender use but maybe some more future investements for other fields too so i was looking forward to buy a 4x4 to be more flexible. About 7341 in my country there is no way to get it for that money, they are expensive unfortunately... for a ford/deutz fahr tractor 4x4 needs 8.000+++... Thats why this is the only tractor i can find for that money.

 

[diyfarmer]

First of all big Thank for answer me back because i am really confused.
I saw zetor 8045 somewhere and it looked exactly like 8011 crystal, they are both 4x4. Are they the same?? i was curious... Was a good tractor after all but heavy?? Well iam not looking for only lavender use but maybe some more future investements for other fields too so i was looking forward to buy a 4x4 to be more flexible. About 7341 in my country there is no way to get it for that money, they are expensive unfortunately... for a ford/deutz fahr tractor 4x4 needs 8.000+++... Thats why this is the only tractor i can find for that money.

Well to correct you there, Zetor 8011 and 8045 are not both 4x4 , 8045 is the four wheel drive version of 8011 which is two wheel drive of the Zetor Crystal, they would be about 4.5 tonnes weight and old now that's why I say to try a 8111 instead. A 7341 or a 7245 is a Zetor and would be a lighter weight

 

[kostashoobe]

Well to correct you there, 8011 and 8045 are not both 4x4 , 8045 is the four wheel drive version of 8011 which is two wheel drive of the Zetor Crystal, they would be about 4.5 tonnes weight and old now that's why I say to try a 8111 instead. A 7341 or a 7245 is a Zetor and would be a lighter weight


But this 8011 that i linked here is 4x4. how is it? since 8045 is the model with 4x4?

Here are some specs i found:

THE Zetor 8011 WEIGHT,

THE Zetor 8045 WEIGHT,

THE Zetor 7245 WEIGHT,

THE Zetor 7341 WEIGHT,

AND LAST THE ZETOR 8111 WEIGHT,

Are those specs the right ones?
Maybe i could get with a bit more money the Zetor 7245 which is a big more new model than the others but the 8341 with be too expensive here for me.

 

[diyfarmer]

The link you put up doesn't open anything for me so I can't see the picture your talking about. But a Zetor 7245 would be lighter for you only it's an old tractor now as they were made back in the middle 80s.

 

[kostashoobe]

The link you put up doesn't open anything for me so I can't see the picture your talking about. But a 7245 would be lighter for you only it's an old tractor now as they were made back in the middle 80s.

here it is

https://www.car.gr/14518780-zetor-18?lang=en

 

[diyfarmer]

Well now that I can see it, that's a good looking tractor and be well worth the money. It looks tidy, with good tyres and clean cab.

It is not a 8011. It is a 8045 4 wheel drive with the wrong bonnet on it or someone has put a new decal that says 8011 when it was repainted.


You should look at some other ads on that site too. if the 8045 is too heavy there are other Zetors like 7245 or 7745.

 

[kostashoobe]

You should look at some other ads on that site too. if the 8045 is too heavy there are other Zetors like 7245 or 7745.

Beside being heavy in the end was that 8045 a good tractor? Also whats the difference between 7245 and 7745 coz they look the same to me. Thanks for all your help !

 

[diyfarmer]

Beside being heavy in the end was that 8045 a good tractor? Also whats the difference between 7245 and 7745 coz they look the same to me. Thanks for all your help !

Yes 8045 was a good tractor, the one I owned work great only that it was old and the pervious owner was a contractor and he had worked hard.
A 7745 is an updated version of the 7245 with a few more horses and there a turbo option, the steering was improved and the cab had updates and the road speed was increased from 25 to 30 km.

 

[kostashoobe]

Beside being heavy in the end was that 8045 a good tractor? Also whats the difference between 7245 and 7745 coz they look the same to me. Thanks for all your help !

Yes 8045 was a good tractor, the one I owned work great only that it was old and the pervious owner was a contractor and he had worked hard.
A 7745 is an updated version of the 7245 with a few more horses and there a turbo option, the steering was improved and the cab had updates and the road speed was increased from 25 to 30 km.

Thank you a lot. You helped me a lot to solve my questions!

 

[diyfarmer]

Have you decided what to buy yet?

 

[kostashoobe]

well, it seems that the only option i got is to buy that zetor from the link ( the 8045) or i have to wait for another advertisement of traktors since there arent any right now of what i want in that money


Still looking. The prices at greece are just a mess. The tractor that i had post a link to saw you (crystal 8045) eventually was be a really good price too but the owner told somethinf that made me worry. That the tractor has no leaks( thats good) but it burns a bit oil . He didnt say how much but a traxtor burns some oil doesnt sound go to me. Maybe a risk for engine full repair later?

https://www.car.gr/14560071-zetor-6911-8?lang=en

This one is 2wd looks like it has only 1.500 real work hours the owner said no leaks ,no burn oils and the positive on that tractor is just that he selling with all those staff in the photos ( 8 extra pieces and staff to use). The tractor and all that staff almost in tbe same price with 8045. Of course they are totally different tractors

 

[diyfarmer]

That's a good looking tractor ok, but I'm sure it worked at bit more than 1500 hours as it's 38 years old. Does it come with the other machinery? do you need the extra machinery? because 6000 Euro seems quiet a lot for a 6911, I think 3000 would be enough.

 

[kostashoobe]

yes he is selling it with all the other machinery of the photos. he may drop the price to 5.500. i dont really need them no because they are mostly for beans crops farming. but it has some general use machinery too like milling machine and plow machine. the milling machine is heavy duty one 1.7m i quess its not cheap one. Also 4 wheel trolley they are staff that can be usefull anyway. Otherwise i wouldnt be looking at it since my main goal was a 4wd tractor

 

[diyfarmer]

You would be buying some small old machines there, the rotavator and the trailer, the ridger, the plough are nice, the fertilizer spreader is very small and there are 2 machines I'm not sure what they are? a sort of seeder and a power harrow (I think).

They might be all well minded as they do look like they are in a shed for a while, but it's a bit of a waste to be buying stuff just to get the tractor unless you are able to sell on the machinery later.

 

[kostashoobe]

You would be buying some small old machines there, the rotavator and the trailer, the ridger, the plough are nice, the fertilizer spreader is very small and there are 2 machines I'm not sure what they are? a sort of seeder and a power harrow (I think).

They might be all well minded as they do look like they are in a shed for a while, but it's a bit of a waste to be buying stuff just to get the tractor unless you are able to sell on the machinery later.

Well you saying the facts exactly they are. But on the other hand it may be the reason why i would go buy that.. What do i mean? I am a new starter farmer only with lavender for the moment and i got nothing from machinery also. I mean, ok i will get a tractor soon and at least for lavender i will need first of all a lavender cultivator. that the main work for the tractor in the near futute. But well rotavator, the trailer, the ridger,the plough are basic machinery for a farmer and what a farmer must have arent they? i quest wont be worthless having them too, u know? the rotavator is a big one heavy duty (here i think new one cost at least 2.000) They are machines that in the future will be usefull and wont have to buy them then.

 

[diyfarmer]

For sure you would a nice list of machinery to start from, so if they suit you should take look at the tractor to check it running good because a tractor that only works a small amount can often be worse than one is being used flat out.

When I was starting out as a farmer, I too tried to buy my own machines but it's not easy to get establish until you have a good tractor first.

 

[kostashoobe]

For now i only have 15 acres with lavender. I wont be that demanding on a tractor, would i? In the next 2 years i will make them at least 30, still not much i quess. Doesnt that tractor doesnt look good at you so much does it? About the machinery, as i said its not that i will need them for sure. i just think its always good to have things like that. tools are tools..

 

[diyfarmer]

Sorry your question, are you asking me if I think the tractor looks good? well here's an ad on a website here in Ireland.

Tractors Ads For Sale in Ireland | DoneDeal

Discover 6,014 Ads in Tractors For Sale in Ireland on DoneDeal. Buy & Sell on Ireland's Largest Tractors Marketplace.

www.donedeal.ie

It's a 1980 Zetor 6911 2wd 3,500. So don't they look very similar.

 

[kostashoobe]

well its price its almost like here too. I quess they are similar but the tractor there has no lights on (missing ) and the cabin is the official factory one? Or the one that doesnt have the official cabin is the 6911 i posted? Partically the one here cost 3.500 and the rest money are also for the machinery.

 

[diyfarmer]

well its price its almost like here too. I quess they are similar but the tractor there has no lights on (missing ) and the cabin is the official factory one? Or the one that doesnt have the official cabin is the 6911 i posted? Partically the one here cost 3.500 and the rest money are also for the machinery.

Well that's what I was saying, E3500 in price is the same. The tractor on done deal has an official cab, the headlights were moved to suit a front loader, the light on yours are too low if your were working a loader at night plus there so low and sticking out too. So on your ad if the tractor E3500 then the rest for the machinery, wouldn't be bad as the rotavator and the trailer on their own would nearly be that.

 

[kostashoobe]

So seems like a good deal to you? does the tractor on my ad has official cab too? do u know is this tractor is a good one?

 

[diyfarmer]

Your tractor's cab is not an official cab, seen as it's open at the back and I can't where the doors are and the front window opens, the cab must been made to suit the climate in your country.
My father used to have the pervious model 6718, which he had for 14 years, it need really gave any bother apart from the usual wear and tare, so I'm sure a 6911 would be very similar.

Looking at the pictures the from axle is missing the rubber boots at the bottom of the stubs.

 

[kostashoobe]

the doors are near the tractor but they are just not the regular type straight down door. (look for the grip).
Those shafts you are talking about that they missing can u explain or show me a picture about them where they are and what for?
So it had continuous wear and tear? In other words i can understand if you were me you wouldnt taking that tractor. You dont like it at all .

 

[diyfarmer]

No I never said I didn't like it, I'm just saying because it looks like it had an easy life and doesn't get worked flat out all the time doesn't mean that it's in mint condition.
If you look at the pictures of the machines there is a lot of cobwebs and dust on them looks like they are out of work for a good while. On picture 13 the front axle is missing the rubber boots but that would not be a deal breaker for me.
Why don't you ring and go look at it and take it for test drive.




There's another one in Ireland, is a bit rough but probably be working ok Tractors Ads For Sale in Ireland | DoneDeal - https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/zetor-5911/18837522

 

[kostashoobe]

A private citizen called me this morning with an unexpected offer. but i can sent u a private message about it. dont know if its be ok to post here and show you because is not a zetor


I will post here the links from a site that i upload the photos. because its not on an ad. i had a buying ad on the web with my phone. he called me and told me he is selling his tractor.
Info that i have about it:
It has a power steering, no other machinery goes with it, on one photo you can see the hours it has but i dont know if its correct at all.
Pros: From what i hearing from other farmers they saying its a very very good company and fiat making strong tractors with good quality. its a 4x4 and the price its the same 5.000. on other ads i find that tractor at 10-12.000E.
Cons: Its being sitting of duty for 1 year at least. for that time didnt worked coz the owner had health problems.
So first is that a big problem? being not worked for over a year? second is true a good tractor and worth?
It seems really good like other people saying and iam thinking about to buy that one already. what should i watch for?



View: https://imgur.com/a/1PoGbMM here the photos

 

[diyfarmer]

I'm sorry but I'm a Zetor man and be stumped when comes to Fiat. Fiat tractors stopped selling in the mid 90s when Ford joined together and 80-66 would have never been available in Ireland, though Fiat were very popular with 90-90 and 100-90 still easy found.
Your pictures look ok, 4wd, tyres and plenty of weights, you have no cab or safety bar on it or a pick up hitch. If the tractor been idle for over a year the big thing would be to watch seals and gaskets are gone dry and could start leaking, check the diesel is not bad also the clutch or brakes are not stuck. And battery is not dead. If I was getting it, the first thing I would do is change all the oils and filters, grease joints and check the diesel. Some of the Fiats were 5 cylinder engines.


You should also check that when it was parked up that there was enough oil in the engine and gearbox and back end or water hasn't got into it as it would go rusty inside.

 

[kostashoobe]

The tractor according to the photos it was parked below the tree and he put some staff on to protect a few importand things.
First of all by the way i want to thanknyou so much once again you really help me fellow ireland friend with your knowledge and experience. I have no idea about tractors and i learn a lot of staff by you.
Now if i go to see the tractor (its 5 hours way) what should also be carefull and aware? I didnt ask him if the tractor has a working battery or if the owner( he was not the owner he was a dealer) used to start up some times the tractor at least during that time.
I quess i should take out the diesel from the tank before?Since its there so much time and put new one before start? I should start it up and see how it rolls right? Or wait to change the oils filters etc first before first start over a year?


Another friend farmer told me start it up and let it work in lowest engine speed for 15 minutes and after that speed up the engine to max. If a lot of black smoke come out it will means thr engine has a problem. Maybe the springs of valve or something there. Is that true?

 

[diyfarmer]

As this is not a Zetor , you really shouldn't be asking questions on a Zetor forum, but just to put you on the right road, the tractor sitting there for a year all the oil will be gone to the bottom of the sump, and in the gearbox and backend the same so when you go start it you will probably need to pump the diesel, if it starts the oil will to circulate so I wouldn't rev it for a bit and the same with the hydraulics. It's going to smoke with old oil and soot build up.

I would have no knowledge on Fiat tractors, I have never even drove one. I looked at a 88-94 to buy but bought a Zetor after. Our family had about 25 Zetor tractors over the years so that's where my experience came from.


Did you ring about the tractor? if your going 5 hours drive to buy this. you'll need transport to bring it home. If I was to drive 5 hours from my house I would end up in the sea.