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12 inches/30 centimeter) is ridiculous !! our 5245 lifts more than two feet/ 55 cm.
What happens if you hold the lever in upper position till the lift stops raising ?? sometimes, the valve shuts by vibrations, and the lever gets back. You can adjust the spring tension with a buolt on the lever, underneath the cab. put the lever in lowest position to reach it from behind.
What happens if you hold the lever in upper position till the lift stops raising ?? sometimes, the valve shuts by vibrations, and the lever gets back. You can adjust the spring tension with a buolt on the lever, underneath the cab. put the lever in lowest position to reach it from behind.
I put it in the farthest (most high) position and keep it there by hand and it just stops. It does shudder a little at the end but then it stops.
So, the adjustment bolt/screw is under the cab? Does it rotate on a shaft? How do I know where to set it?
So, the adjustment bolt/screw is under the cab? Does it rotate on a shaft? How do I know where to set it?
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No, the bolt runs through the center of the coil spring, adding pressure to the lever to achieve friction.
You can also change the lift arm geometry, put the arms into another pinhole ??
You can also change the lift arm geometry, put the arms into another pinhole ??
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..But i dont think adding more tension to the friction spring will increase lifting height, if you cant lift higher by holding the lever in place manually...
Hey, when the lever is up, you cant push ahrder and get it more backwards ?? Our 5245 lifts smooth on the first, lower end, but then you have to push harder on the lever, and you can hear that the oil pump has to work harder in the upper end than in the lower end.
The 5245 had this when we bought it 4 years ago, i think the Zetormatic weight transfer system valve is the bad boy, because the ploughing control doesn't work, lever is stuck as a house.
On the older ones, we never had trouble. The 6718 lifts like a dream, very easy and accurate Zetormatic control. I havent opened a lift cover myself yet, so i cant really help you if it's inside.....
Hey, when the lever is up, you cant push ahrder and get it more backwards ?? Our 5245 lifts smooth on the first, lower end, but then you have to push harder on the lever, and you can hear that the oil pump has to work harder in the upper end than in the lower end.
The 5245 had this when we bought it 4 years ago, i think the Zetormatic weight transfer system valve is the bad boy, because the ploughing control doesn't work, lever is stuck as a house.
On the older ones, we never had trouble. The 6718 lifts like a dream, very easy and accurate Zetormatic control. I havent opened a lift cover myself yet, so i cant really help you if it's inside.....
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Heh, on the old forum, you can read from a guy who had an intermittent hydraulic failure on his 8011: He added oil to the upper limit. After some time, he compared his dipstick to the dipstick of another 8011 and found out that his was shorter, causing a difference in oil level of 20 liters !!!!
Too much oil will not be very harmful, try adding more oil and see if it works...
Too much oil will not be very harmful, try adding more oil and see if it works...
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The small round foot pedal is the differential lock.
The small lever on the right, parallel to the PTO lever (same size), is the high/low gear range selector.
Ahh, you mean that lever... That's an oil flow regulator, you can obstruct the oil flow with it, to get a smaller oil flow when necessary.
The small lever on the right, parallel to the PTO lever (same size), is the high/low gear range selector.
Ahh, you mean that lever... That's an oil flow regulator, you can obstruct the oil flow with it, to get a smaller oil flow when necessary.
Okay, there are two levers, side by side. One lifts the 3 point hookup, the other??????????. Then there's another lever (not on the floorboard) next to those other two levers but down lower right at the bottom of the seat. What are they and what do they do?
MAN - [smiley=surprised] Do I need that manual !!
MAN - [smiley=surprised] Do I need that manual !!
As for this post, I hope someone can explain why I have to constantly adjust my lift arms for every attachment!! Surely they made this thing with more travel! Anyway I will keep looking for the problem and if anyone out there has an idea - please post. Until then I will be lurking just around the corner and maybe they will have my owner's manual in. They have had a hard time finding one for my model.
Surely they made this thing with more travel! Anyway I will keep looking for the problem and if anyone out there has an idea - please post. Until then I will be lurking just around the corner and maybe they will have my owner's manual in. They have had a hard time finding one for my model.
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Big Orn,
[shadow=gray,120]"Okay, there are two levers, side by side. One lifts the 3 point hookup, the other?".[/]
>> I'm not that familiar withthe 5211 but here are my thoughts:[/]
>>> If this is a two position lever that spring returns to center, it is the built in hydraulic spool valve.[/]
[shadow=gray,120]"Then there's another lever (not on the floorboard) next to those other two levers but down lower right at the bottom of the seat. What are they and what do they do?"[/]>>> Zetormatic 3 point linkages have three positions - draft, position and mixed. This could be the cause of your problem- try moving this lever and see what effect it has on the lift.[/]
[shadow=gray,120]"Okay, there are two levers, side by side. One lifts the 3 point hookup, the other?".[/]
>> I'm not that familiar withthe 5211 but here are my thoughts:[/]
>>> If this is a two position lever that spring returns to center, it is the built in hydraulic spool valve.[/]
[shadow=gray,120]"Then there's another lever (not on the floorboard) next to those other two levers but down lower right at the bottom of the seat. What are they and what do they do?"[/]>>> Zetormatic 3 point linkages have three positions - draft, position and mixed. This could be the cause of your problem- try moving this lever and see what effect it has on the lift.[/]
Yes, Tom, I know the lever you are talking about and was told NOT to move that lever. I was skeptical because why would they have put the lever on there if we weren't meant to use it! I will give it a try this weekend. Thanks.
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Hey Big Orn - on my Crystal - if the lift is say at the half way point, moving this lever causes the lift the drop. Sounds a lot like your problem. Hope things work out for you this weekend.
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Yes, if you have the lever in fully lifted position, and push it down right to the opposite position, you dont notice that the lever is already over it's dead point and will operate the valve to lift again, in lowest position...
Yea, I think I understand, but why would that guy tell me to NEVER move that lever? What was he thinking? Could it be because the Loader is hooked up directly to the pump? Anyway, I am going to play with that lever and see what happens. Thanks, men.
going to play with that lever and see what happens. Thanks, men.Hey Big Orn,
Have you had any success with your lift?
I would try,as suggested before, and move that outermost lever to P, M or D and see if the lift will raise higher. P=position, M= mixed and D =draft.
Also there is a lever to the rear of the hitch control levers, this lever adjusts the oil flow to the 3 point. You might try moving this lever as well. Lever to the left more oil to the 3pt, to the right less. If your Zetor is equipped with a rear remote valve, moving this lever to the right diverts more oil flow to the remote outlet.
Have you had any success with your lift?
I would try,as suggested before, and move that outermost lever to P, M or D and see if the lift will raise higher. P=position, M= mixed and D =draft.
Also there is a lever to the rear of the hitch control levers, this lever adjusts the oil flow to the 3 point. You might try moving this lever as well. Lever to the left more oil to the 3pt, to the right less. If your Zetor is equipped with a rear remote valve, moving this lever to the right diverts more oil flow to the remote outlet.
Yea, I did move it to no avail. I called the nearest Zetor dealer who got in the wrong manual . I would hate to mess up something in the hydraulic system since the loader is hooked up direct (it had no shutoff except for the main pump). I moved the other levers too, but without the manual on how the hydraulics work I might not have moved them in the right sequence. Will let you know ASAP.
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Reprints of Zetor Shop Manuals available from:
www.tractor-manuals.com
They are based here in the UK.I have manuals for each of my Zetors.They are copies of the factory manuals.You just need to be able to understand the Czech- English translation that the factory use in their manuals!
Re your hitch: The pick up hitch isn't preventing the arms going all the way up is it? Usually Zetors either work or they don't.They never half work!
Steve.
www.tractor-manuals.com
They are based here in the UK.I have manuals for each of my Zetors.They are copies of the factory manuals.You just need to be able to understand the Czech- English translation that the factory use in their manuals!
Re your hitch: The pick up hitch isn't preventing the arms going all the way up is it? Usually Zetors either work or they don't.They never half work!
Steve.
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Try turning the control lever around,I had the same problem on my 5211.If you remove the guard with the three solts in it,that is the one that all the levers stick up through.You will see were it mounts to the control shaft.unbolt it and flip it over.this allows the lever to travel backwards farther. this cured mine.
While changing the cylinder sleeve o-rings last year I got the cylinders honed and installed new piston rings. After 150 hours there's less, but still a lot of blue smoke coming out of the exhaust pipe.
The oil level doesn't drop and the smell iof the exhaust isn't that typical burnt motor motor oil smell(we had a tractor that burnt a lot of oil and the smell was nasty). This is my first zetor so I don't know how a normal healthy zetor should run. Other than that it runs really smooth and has lots of power so I don't know if I should be concerned or not.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Dave
The oil level doesn't drop and the smell iof the exhaust isn't that typical burnt motor motor oil smell(we had a tractor that burnt a lot of oil and the smell was nasty). This is my first zetor so I don't know how a normal healthy zetor should run. Other than that it runs really smooth and has lots of power so I don't know if I should be concerned or not.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Dave
Hi Dave
Just wondering what kind of work the tractor is doiing ? With a newly rebuilt engine it needs putting into fairly hard work for a while to bed the rings in so that it doesn't glaze the bores.
If you're just idling it round a yard that may be why it is smoking - give it some hard work.
Did you put the correct head gaskets on ? Use the 1.2mm ones.
What oil are you using ? Modern universal oils are too good for Zetor engines as they have too many additives so that they suit most applications. If you can get it, use a straight 30 grade oil. If not use a 15W40 diesel engine oil.
Mike
Just wondering what kind of work the tractor is doiing ? With a newly rebuilt engine it needs putting into fairly hard work for a while to bed the rings in so that it doesn't glaze the bores.
If you're just idling it round a yard that may be why it is smoking - give it some hard work.
Did you put the correct head gaskets on ? Use the 1.2mm ones.
What oil are you using ? Modern universal oils are too good for Zetor engines as they have too many additives so that they suit most applications. If you can get it, use a straight 30 grade oil. If not use a 15W40 diesel engine oil.
Mike
I can't figure out why my post got inserted into someone else's post.weird!!
I made a point of really giving the engine some work and working through the rev range while the rings were seating.
I changed the oil (regular old 15w40) after some break in time and then the tractor spent the summer cutting and baling hay.It wasn't idling around but I guess it wasn't really the heaviest of work either.
I'll make sure to do some discing or cultivating with it this spring.
Thanks for the reply, I think you're probably right about the rings not being seated properly,time will tell I guess.
Dave
I made a point of really giving the engine some work and working through the rev range while the rings were seating.
I changed the oil (regular old 15w40) after some break in time and then the tractor spent the summer cutting and baling hay.It wasn't idling around but I guess it wasn't really the heaviest of work either.
I'll make sure to do some discing or cultivating with it this spring.
Thanks for the reply, I think you're probably right about the rings not being seated properly,time will tell I guess.
Dave
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