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  1. Renze

    news New Zetor "Series 6" (maybe Forterra) 120-171 hp is coming!

    Zetor is now putting some official stuff on their website. Here, they mention 30/15 gears like Deutz and Landini/McCormick. Previously they were talking about 24/12 gears for the 40 eco gearbox (the ZF box with 30 gears could run 72kmh unrestricted) https://www.zetor.cz/rada-6
  2. Renze

    news New Zetor "Series 6" (maybe Forterra) 120-171 hp is coming!

    Guy i know here, just bought a Puma 260. Reverse drive conversion was done at an Austrian Case/Steyr specialist.. no factory option. Tractor is running a wood chipper with loading crane. So then, why would Zetor bother about reverse drive on a 4 cylinder farmers tractor when even CNH doesnt...
  3. Renze

    news New Zetor "Series 6" (maybe Forterra) 120-171 hp is coming!

    MCAE systems 3D printed the prototype cab panels for Zetor: it is a great way of getting a feel of the design, without investing time and money in vacuum molds for forming the plastic parts. Wooden forms can be used for small batches, but they cant stand the heated plastic on them for that many...
  4. Renze

    news New Zetor "Series 6" (maybe Forterra) 120-171 hp is coming!

    So, apart from using the same components as Deutz Fahr, they also use the same names ? So they arent going to sell a Zetor, but a red and cheap Deutz ? Can they actually make them cheaper as Deutz ? Sounds like a poor business plan. If you are working for the same cost as Deutz Fahr but with a...
  5. Renze

    news Zetor Tractors a.s. - from 2025 no own engines/transmissions anymore, but ZF, Deutz and Carraro!

    Just another example: Dodge trucks had a 4% market share in pickup trucks. The pickup truck engineering staff was let off, so they sent a Dodge with the most powerful 360 cubic inch V8 to Cummins engineering facilities so Cummins could fit their own engine in the engine bay and test it...
  6. Renze

    news Zetor Tractors a.s. - from 2025 no own engines/transmissions anymore, but ZF, Deutz and Carraro!

    There was a Maxterra prototype with FPT for sale on a Czech ad website last year. So far in the past 22 years, HTC management of Zetor has been pretty catastrophic. Poorly developed tractors like the 11441 scared away customers to other brands, postponement of the Maxterra required to keep...
  7. Renze

    news New Zetor "Series 6" (maybe Forterra) 120-171 hp is coming!

    All right guys, we have some more photos of another prototype. This seems to be a more premium version because i dont see hydraulic levers. Despite what anyone says, it seems that Zetor gets things done now they free up engineering budget and time to work on the ergonomics, instead of on...
  8. Renze

    news New Zetor "Series 6" (maybe Forterra) 120-171 hp is coming!

    I havent heard about any... many CS, CVT, CVX ran in my area, they still do, but they only have a thirsty reputation, but some run 18.000hrs. It was hit by a car in dense fog, breaking the front axle from the engine block. Otherwise it was still in daily use with a dumptrailer. The contractor...
  9. Renze

    news HCP Norge admits Zetor has no priority

    I think i am a realist too... trust comes by foot and leaves by train. And Zetor has been disappointing trust for 15 years now. They really have to work hard to earn that trust back. And i am worried if the Zetor organisation can make this big of a change in one or two years, especially when you...
  10. Renze

    news HCP Norge admits Zetor has no priority

    Thinking, or doing, are two different things. In the end, everybody has a business to run, and the supplier with the best business opportunities wins. Will people really give up what they have, to go back to what is unproven, out of brand loyalty ?
  11. Renze

    news New Zetor "Series 6" (maybe Forterra) 120-171 hp is coming!

    I know what you mean. I have never said that Deutz is a bad engine, i just know that WHEN a Deutz gives up, it rarely gets an in-frame overhaul, most of the time a new shortblock or longblock gets installed, racking up to 20.000 Euro. Thats quite the departure from the prices of rebuilding a...
  12. Renze

    news HCP Norge admits Zetor has no priority

    HCP Norge, the Zetor importer of Norway, which has taken on Deutz Fahr and is pushing them over Zetor to their dealers, has finally spoken straight out what they have been doing for 10 years: They will no longer prioritize Zetor...
  13. Renze

    news New Zetor "Series 6" (maybe Forterra) 120-171 hp is coming!

    It depends on how expensive trouble gets. I know a self employed contractor (his neighbours kid helps him when in need, otherwise he works alone) he complained to me that the local Fendt dealer had an 826 for trade and didnt call him. Did he not want to sell ?? I told him hes a Favorit 614...
  14. Renze

    news New Zetor "Series 6" (maybe Forterra) 120-171 hp is coming!

    https://www.fwi.co.uk/machinery/tractors/fendt-tractors-common-problems-and-how-to-fix-them?fbclid=IwAR1qpk64MTz153pn8MYwYItli9QNRUaUyEkw8L7eS6p6jf8srDF9Rzk1pqo Deutz engines and rebuild... Thats expensive, according to Farmers Weekly. Unlike the smaller 1011 engines, the TCD 6.1 is a sleeved...
  15. Renze

    news New Zetor "Series 6" (maybe Forterra) 120-171 hp is coming!

    We knew it back then as well, when the most prolific dealers quit Zetor. True, the new cab looks promising, four mechanical hydraulic levers and the EH joystick is already a mid level spec, but as a whole package, with the 6 speed powershift with automated range shifts, it is already a better...
  16. Renze

    news New Zetor "Series 6" (maybe Forterra) 120-171 hp is coming!

    And by the way, next year a 250hp tractor, powershift only, but with ISO bus terminal? Especially the T-7300 transaxle with 6 speeds and 4 powershifts, is still quite conservative. Equipping it with isobus as standard, drives up the cost. MF has it on its 3rd tier spec level. Starts with...
  17. Renze

    news New Zetor "Series 6" (maybe Forterra) 120-171 hp is coming!

    They do need six pots from 160hp onward though... Thats how the market works these days. 4 cylinder 2.65 wheelbase up to 170hp, six cylinder 2.85 wheelbase from 160hp onwards. Case Puma 260 is still 2.85 wheelbase, where the Optum has 3.06 and the Magnum too. In Eastern Europe a 3 meter...
  18. Renze

    news Zetor Tractors a.s. - from 2025 no own engines/transmissions anymore, but ZF, Deutz and Carraro!

    Look at Case Farmall models: https://konedata.net/traktorit/case-ih-traktorit/case-ih-farmall-90-u-115-u-steyr-multi-4095-4115/ The base models are 12/12 mechanical shuttle, and 24/24 with 2 stage powershift and powershuttle. Then the Pro model utilises a ZF 32/32 with 4 powershifts and...
  19. Renze

    news Zetor Tractors a.s. - from 2025 no own engines/transmissions anymore, but ZF, Deutz and Carraro!

    Forterra: Yes, they need a semi powershift with 3 or 4 ranges and an 8.5 ton rear axle in the Forterra segment. Next to that, when Zetor came out with the HSX, dealers demonstrated a HSX with the powershuttle, and once customers were sold on the powershuttle, they bought a New Holland for the...
  20. Renze

    news Zetor Tractors a.s. - from 2025 no own engines/transmissions anymore, but ZF, Deutz and Carraro!

    Crazy times indeed. We see happening what we told them was going to happen 15 years ago: Western dealers: Our customers are going to a competitor because i cant offer a six cylinder, and once they have foothold, the customer trades his Forterra and Proxima too. Zetor: we dont care, we can sell...
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